ABS
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Rolex triviaOkay, let me see how much Jimbo really knows....
I'll start with one question and I'll add to it when it's answered correctly.
How many full turns of the crown do you need to fully wind a 3135 movement?
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BigHat
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Is this exclusively for Jim?
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ABS
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| BigHat wrote: | | Is this exclusively for Jim? |
No of course not... Anybody can participate! 
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Lisa
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Hah! I'll throw out a guess but I know absolutely nothing! Never said I was afraid to look like a fool!
30.
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ABS
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| Lisa wrote: | Hah! I'll throw out a guess but I know absolutely nothing! Never said I was afraid to look like a fool!
30. |
nope.... Nice try though!
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BigHat
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I thought it was a 50 hour reserve generated via about 40 turns. 
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ABS
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| BigHat wrote: | | I thought it was a 50 hour reserve generated via about 40 turns. |
About 40 is very close, but what is it exactly??
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BigHat
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Well maybe "at least 40 turns"? That's all I ever remember reading. In other words you can't over wind it.
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ABS
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| BigHat wrote: | | Well maybe "at least 40 turns"? That's all I ever remember reading. In other words you can't over wind it. |
Alright, I'll give you that one....
The correct answer is 39.4 full turns of the crown!
Now, let me think of a new question.... (unless you can come up with something?)
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mfer
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Well, I have a question.
When my Rolex is stopped (out of wound spring), how come I have to wind it many many times before it starts moving. It takes like 10+ turns before it starts moving. Now that is like 25% of the power reserve if the relationship is linear.
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ABS
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| mfer wrote: | Well, I have a question.
When my Rolex is stopped (out of wound spring), how come I have to wind it many many times before it starts moving. It takes like 10+ turns before it starts moving. Now that is like 25% of the power reserve if the relationship is linear. |
That means your watch's beat is off. It's a little adjustment to sync it again.
Beat, simlpy explained, is when your watch does "tic-toc....tic-toc..." instead of "tic-toc-tic-toc". When your watch starts up again from nothing, it takes a while to find it's rythm if the beat is off.
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mfer
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Really interesting b/c both of my watches do it and both keep very good time. I guess the beat being off doesn't hurt anything then?
GMT is -1 sec day
Sub is -1.5 sec day
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ABS
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How many bph does the 1530 do? (no cheating....)
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ABS
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| mfer wrote: | Really interesting b/c both of my watches do it and both keep very good time. I guess the beat being off doesn't hurt anything then?
GMT is -1 sec day
Sub is -1.5 sec day |
No, it only hurts when the beat is REALLY off. But then your watch wouldn't even start after 30 turns without shaking it a little.
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mfer
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| ABS wrote: | | How many bph does the 1530 do? (no cheating....) |
No clue. 11200?
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ABS
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| mfer wrote: | | ABS wrote: | | How many bph does the 1530 do? (no cheating....) |
No clue. 11200? |
nope
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mailman
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| ABS wrote: | | How many bph does the 1530 do? (no cheating....) |
Slow beat. 18000 per/hr?
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BigBird
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Since my butler winds all my watches, l will have to defer to her. Hey JimBits, stop winding your special watch and get up here and answer the question. 
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Lion
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Does it beat 18,800 bph???
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ABS
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| Lion wrote: | | Does it beat 18,800 bph??? |
nope....
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Jimbits76
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Doh I was gonna say 40!!!!!!
Close though....all those years of JJ's repeated mantra!
J
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ABS
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You're a question behind Jim! Still waiting for the correct answer to Q2!
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swatty
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19800 
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ABS
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You know what guys? I completely screwed up on this one!  The bph on the 1530 is 18,000 just like Paulie posted first!
I was thinking about the 1520 which is 19,800. So I'm really sorry for confusing you guys!!! 
Lets try a different question....
What does the official hallmark used (after Aug.1st, 1995) for all precious metals and fineness standards, represent?
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Jimbits76
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A monkey headed bat dragon?
That was a guess.
J
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swatty
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| ABS wrote: |
Lets try a different question....
What does the official hallmark used (after Aug.1st, 1995) for all precious metals and fineness standards, represent? |
The head of a Saint-Bernard dog
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ABS
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| swatty wrote: | | ABS wrote: |
Lets try a different question....
What does the official hallmark used (after Aug.1st, 1995) for all precious metals and fineness standards, represent? |
The head of a Saint-Bernard dog |
Good job Peter!
What is the difference between the dial markings:
"T SWISS T" and "-T SWISS T-" ?
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Lisa
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Okay, it has to do with Tritium....
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uncle aj
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| ABS wrote: | | swatty wrote: | | ABS wrote: |
Lets try a different question....
What does the official hallmark used (after Aug.1st, 1995) for all precious metals and fineness standards, represent? |
The head of a Saint-Bernard dog |
Good job Peter!
What is the difference between the dial markings:
"T SWISS T" and "-T SWISS T-" ? |
Dash it, I used to know that.
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ABS
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| Lisa wrote: | | Okay, it has to do with Tritium.... |
nope, tritium has nothing to do with it!
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swatty
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Just a guess but do the dashes represent a replacement/service dial has been fitted.
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Lisa
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| ABS wrote: | | Lisa wrote: | | Okay, it has to do with Tritium.... |
nope, tritium has nothing to do with it! |
Obviously I will never qualify as a WIS.
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Lion
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| Lisa wrote: | | ABS wrote: | | Lisa wrote: | | Okay, it has to do with Tritium.... |
nope, tritium has nothing to do with it! |
Obviously I will never qualify as a WIS. |
Lisa, don't worry I think a lot of us would not qualify but we sure can have fun playing/guessing!!!
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mfer
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I remember this on I thinks!!!
-T Swiss T- = STEEL Surrounds on the indicies.
The no - meant white gold!
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ABS
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| mfer wrote: | I remember this on I thinks!!!
-T Swiss T- = STEEL Surrounds on the indicies.
The no - meant white gold! |
Good job Mik!  Have you been cheating??
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Lion
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| ABS wrote: | | mfer wrote: | I remember this on I thinks!!!
-T Swiss T- = STEEL Surrounds on the indicies.
The no - meant white gold! |
Good job Mik! Have you been cheating?? |
Give that man a cigar.....
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mfer
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| ABS wrote: |
Good job Mik! Have you been cheating?? |
No, I remember that one b/c I thought about buying a 14060 tritium but I wanted to make sure the hands/indicies wouldn't corrode.
I basically wanted a pristine looking patina piece.
I think I then found out that all 14060's have the WG surrounds and the steel was only on the DJ models.
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ABS
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How many pallet stones does the Swiss Lever Escapement have?
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JJ Irani
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Hey Mireyna,
How many turns of my bald crown would you have to make to get me fully wound up?
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BigHat
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| ABS wrote: | | How many pallet stones does the Swiss Lever Escapement have? |
Two?
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Lion
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| JJ Irani wrote: | Hey Mireyna,
How many turns of my bald crown would you have to make to get me fully wound up? |
I think that is a trick question!!! LOL!!!
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mfer
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That is my thought too as that is how many I see when I look at my Pam 111.
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ABS
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| JJ Irani wrote: | Hey Mireyna,
How many turns of my bald crown would you have to make to get me fully wound up? |
I think just shaking it once will do!
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ABS
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| BigHat wrote: | | ABS wrote: | | How many pallet stones does the Swiss Lever Escapement have? |
Two? |
Don't doubt yourself! You answer is CORRECT!!
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ABS
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How many stones TOTAL are there in a Swiss Lever Escapement?
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swatty
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7
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ABS
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| swatty wrote: | | 7 |
Good one Peter!
Are the pivots of the pallet fork lubricated with grease or oil?
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uncle aj
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| ABS wrote: | | swatty wrote: | | 7 |
Good one Peter!
Are the pivots of the pallet fork lubricated with grease or oil? |
Grease. (It's a fifty fifty call.)
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ABS
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| uncle aj wrote: | | ABS wrote: | | swatty wrote: | | 7 |
Good one Peter!
Are the pivots of the pallet fork lubricated with grease or oil? |
Grease. (It's a fifty fifty call.) |
WRONG!!!!
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uncle aj
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| ABS wrote: | | uncle aj wrote: | | ABS wrote: | | swatty wrote: | | 7 |
Good one Peter!
Are the pivots of the pallet fork lubricated with grease or oil? |
Grease. (It's a fifty fifty call.) |
WRONG!!!! |
OK I'll try again, graphite.
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ABS
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| uncle aj wrote: | | ABS wrote: | | uncle aj wrote: | | ABS wrote: | | swatty wrote: | | 7 |
Good one Peter!
Are the pivots of the pallet fork lubricated with grease or oil? |
Grease. (It's a fifty fifty call.) |
WRONG!!!! |
OK I'll try again, graphite. |
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uncle aj
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I better start running. 
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Tools
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| ABS wrote: | | uncle aj wrote: | | ABS wrote: | | swatty wrote: | | 7 |
Good one Peter!
Are the pivots of the pallet fork lubricated with grease or oil? |
Grease. (It's a fifty fifty call.) |
WRONG!!!! |
Hey............. I think that this is a trick question................. 
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swatty
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| Tools wrote: | | ABS wrote: | | uncle aj wrote: | | ABS wrote: | | swatty wrote: | | 7 |
Good one Peter!
Are the pivots of the pallet fork lubricated with grease or oil? |
Grease. (It's a fifty fifty call.) |
WRONG!!!! |
Hey............. I think that this is a trick question................. |
It is now 
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Tools
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| swatty wrote: | | Tools wrote: | | ABS wrote: | | uncle aj wrote: | | ABS wrote: | | swatty wrote: | | 7 |
Good one Peter!
Are the pivots of the pallet fork lubricated with grease or oil? |
Grease. (It's a fifty fifty call.) |
WRONG!!!! |
Hey............. I think that this is a trick question................. |
It is now |
No..no, no..
What I mean is that you don't oil the pallet pivots... there is almost no pressure at these points and any oil would introduce friction on this critical timing part.............
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ABS
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| Tools wrote: | | swatty wrote: | | Tools wrote: | | ABS wrote: | | uncle aj wrote: | | ABS wrote: | | swatty wrote: | | 7 |
Good one Peter!
Are the pivots of the pallet fork lubricated with grease or oil? |
Grease. (It's a fifty fifty call.) |
WRONG!!!! |
Hey............. I think that this is a trick question................. |
It is now |
No..no, no..
What I mean is that you don't oil the pallet pivots... there is almost no pressure at these points and any oil would introduce friction on this critical timing part............. |
Well done Larry!!
I knew you would know!!
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uncle aj
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| ABS wrote: | | Tools wrote: | | swatty wrote: | | Tools wrote: | | ABS wrote: | | uncle aj wrote: | | ABS wrote: | | swatty wrote: | | 7 |
Good one Peter!
Are the pivots of the pallet fork lubricated with grease or oil? |
Grease. (It's a fifty fifty call.) |
WRONG!!!! |
Hey............. I think that this is a trick question................. |
It is now |
No..no, no..
What I mean is that you don't oil the pallet pivots... there is almost no pressure at these points and any oil would introduce friction on this critical timing part............. |
Well done Larry!!
I knew you would know!! |
Teacher's pet. 
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Tools
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| uncle aj wrote: | | ABS wrote: | | Tools wrote: | | swatty wrote: | | Tools wrote: | | ABS wrote: | | uncle aj wrote: | | ABS wrote: | | swatty wrote: | | 7 |
Good one Peter!
Are the pivots of the pallet fork lubricated with grease or oil? |
Grease. (It's a fifty fifty call.) |
WRONG!!!! |
Hey............. I think that this is a trick question................. |
It is now |
No..no, no..
What I mean is that you don't oil the pallet pivots... there is almost no pressure at these points and any oil would introduce friction on this critical timing part............. |
Well done Larry!!
I knew you would know!! |
Teacher's pet. |
If I was half my age, I'd gas up the Harley and be on my way to Az in a heartbeat........
(OK, maybe I'd gas up the Mercedes)..........
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Lion
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Larry you are a legend in your own mind!!! LOL!!!
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Lisa
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I am in awe of this woman's vast knowledge! 
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ABS
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| Lisa wrote: | | I am in awe of this woman's vast knowledge! |
Whatever!!
Thanks though....
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ABS
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I guess I need to ask another question ha!?
With the time keeping of the watch when does "knocking" occur?
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uncle aj
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| ABS wrote: | I guess I need to ask another question ha!?
With the time keeping of the watch when does "knocking" occur? |
When the bedroom light goes off?
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Lion
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| uncle aj wrote: | | ABS wrote: | I guess I need to ask another question ha!?
With the time keeping of the watch when does "knocking" occur? |
When the bedroom light goes off? |
Or is it when the begging begins?
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Tools
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| ABS wrote: | I guess I need to ask another question ha!?
With the time keeping of the watch when does "knocking" occur? |
ohh, ohh...
...I know...I know...................
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uncle aj
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| Tools wrote: | | ABS wrote: | I guess I need to ask another question ha!?
With the time keeping of the watch when does "knocking" occur? |
ohh, ohh...
...I know...I know................... |
Teacher's pet.
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ColinB
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| ABS wrote: | I guess I need to ask another question ha!?
With the time keeping of the watch when does "knocking" occur? |
When the postman arrives with that spare part you ordered?
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ABS
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I'll give it another day....
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Tools
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| ABS wrote: | | I'll give it another day.... |
Mainspring over-torque causes too much amplitude and the excessively swinging pallet knocks against it's boundary pins..
I think that this is what the slipping bridle (clutch) is supposed to eliminate; so if your watch is "knocking" it's likely a mainspring/barrel issue........
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Deep Sea
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| Tools wrote: | | ABS wrote: | | I'll give it another day.... |
Mainspring over-torque causes too much amplitude and the excessively swinging pallet knocks against it's boundary pins..
I think that this is what the slipping bridle (clutch) is supposed to eliminate; so if your watch is "knocking" it's likely a mainspring/barrel issue........ |
DAMNIT!!!! I was going to say that! Maybe next time....
Excellent thread, though.
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ABS
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| Tools wrote: | | ABS wrote: | | I'll give it another day.... |
Mainspring over-torque causes too much amplitude and the excessively swinging pallet knocks against it's boundary pins..
I think that this is what the slipping bridle (clutch) is supposed to eliminate; so if your watch is "knocking" it's likely a mainspring/barrel issue........ |
Well done Larry!
What's a good amplitude?
a) 180 degrees
b) 280 degrees
c) 380 degrees
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DSJ
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Damn he's smart! That Larry is such a "tool!"
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JJ Irani
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| DSJ wrote: | | Damn he's smart! That Larry is such a "tool!" |
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Alcan
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| ABS wrote: |
What's a good amplitude?
a) 180 degrees
b) 280 degrees
c) 380 degrees |
b), 280 degrees
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ABS
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| Alcan wrote: | | ABS wrote: |
What's a good amplitude?
a) 180 degrees
b) 280 degrees
c) 380 degrees |
b), 280 degrees |
Very good Al! Thanks for playing!!
How many seperate components does the balance complete exist of?
a) 1
b) 2
c) 3
d) 4
e) 5
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mailman
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Four parts?
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ABS
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| mailman wrote: | | Four parts? |
Nicely done!
How many seconds difference is acceptable in the 5 positions with a 1570 movement?
a) 5 sec.
b) 10 sec.
c) 25 sec.
d) 35 sec.
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mailman
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| ABS wrote: | | mailman wrote: | | Four parts? |
Nicely done!
How many seconds difference is acceptable in the 5 positions with a 1570 movement? |
Thanks...I guessed
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ABS
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| mailman wrote: | | ABS wrote: | | mailman wrote: | | Four parts? |
Nicely done!
How many seconds difference is acceptable in the 5 positions with a 1570 movement? |
Thanks...I guessed |
You're a good guesser!!!
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mailman
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| ABS wrote: | | mailman wrote: | | Four parts? |
Nicely done!
How many seconds difference is acceptable in the 5 positions with a 1570 movement?
a) 5 sec.
b) 10 sec.
c) 25 sec.
d) 35 sec. |
a) 5 sec...?
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ABS
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| mailman wrote: |
a) 5 sec...? |
Okay, I take that last comment back....
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mailman
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| ABS wrote: | | mailman wrote: |
a) 5 sec...? |
Okay, I take that last comment back.... |
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swatty
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I'll guess 10 then
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ABS
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| swatty wrote: | | I'll guess 10 then |
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uncle aj
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25?
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ABS
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Good guess Uncle!!
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uncle aj
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| ABS wrote: |
Good guess Uncle!! |
What do you mean, guess? I was hanging back as I did not want to look like a know it all.
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ABS
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Give me in one post 10 differences between the Submariner 16610 and the GMT-Master II 16710.
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JJ Irani
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| ABS wrote: | | Give me in one post 10 differences between the Submariner 16610 and the GMT-Master II 16710. |
Okay, lady, here ya go.....
1. Movement - 3135 (Sub) vs 3185 (GMT-II)
2. Height - 13 mm for the Sub vs 12 mm for the GMT-II
3. Weight - 135 grams for the Sub vs 127 grams for the GMT-II
4. Bracelet - Oyster Fliplock for the Sub vs Oysterlock for the GMT-II
5. Crown - TRIPLOCK for the Sub vs TWINLOCK for the GMT-II
6. Depth rating - 300 m for the Sub vs 100 m for the GMT-II
7. Hands - 3 in the Sub vs 4 hands in the GMT-II
8. Date change: Rapid date feature for the Sub vs semi-rapid for the GMT-II
9. Sub hour hand cannot be moved independently vs GMT-II hour hand which can.
10. Price: Sub-date list price is US$6K vs GMT-II price which is slightly cheaper.
Now......do I get a kiss??
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uncle aj
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| JJ Irani wrote: |
Now......do I get a kiss?? |
Not from me!!
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JJ Irani
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| uncle aj wrote: | | JJ Irani wrote: |
Now......do I get a kiss?? |
Not from me!! |
Get in line, buster!!!
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swatty
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Line ?
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uncle aj
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I was wondering about that myself.
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ABS
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| JJ Irani wrote: |
Now......do I get a kiss?? |
Of course!! You'll have to come and get it though!
I had a few other differenes in mind, but you did fantastic!!
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Tools
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| ABS wrote: | | JJ Irani wrote: |
Now......do I get a kiss?? |
Of course!! You'll have to come and get it though!
I had a few other differenes in mind, but you did fantastic!! |
Yeah.. Real stuff..
Like inserts and bi-directional bezels and thicker case-backs.........
......."one cost more than the other........ he should lose two points for that one..
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uncle aj
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| Tools wrote: |
......."one cost more than the other........ he should lose two points for that one.. |
That's the only one I knew.
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JJ Irani
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| Tools wrote: | | ABS wrote: | | JJ Irani wrote: |
Now......do I get a kiss?? |
Of course!! You'll have to come and get it though!
I had a few other differenes in mind, but you did fantastic!! |
Yeah.. Real stuff..
Like inserts and bi-directional bezels and thicker case-backs.........
......."one cost more than the other........ he should lose two points for that one.. |
I knew those, Larry, but Mireyna only asked for 10!!
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TheVTCGuy
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I'll give you a big kiss JJ!!!! Get over here big boy!!!!!
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swatty
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| TheVTCGuy wrote: | | I'll give you a big kiss JJ!!!! Get over here big boy!!!!! |
You a sheep Paul
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ABS
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Okay boys, let's get back on track....
How many different kind of lubricants do watchmakers use when they service a Rolex?
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